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John McCain: Denialist

I suppose it takes a good measure of denialism to be able to say that the war’s not going horribly, but this still shocked me

McCain said, per ABC News’ Bret Hovell, that “It’s indisputable that (autism) is on the rise amongst children, the question is what’s causing it. And we go back and forth and there’s strong evidence that indicates that it’s got to do with a preservative in vaccines.”

Really?  It’s indisputable?  No, it’s indisputable that autism diagnoses are on the rise, but there are people who wonder how much of it is real and how much of it is related to changing diagnostic standards and greater awareness.  As for strong evidence?  Huh?  Oh, you mean something like the evidence that the US is winning in Iraq, and that Saddam had WMDs?  So does McCain simply not care whether he knows anything before he chooses to run his mouth on a subject, or is this just part of his outright falsehoods (I never met with Buckingham, I don’t do favours for lobbyists,…)  Or maybe it’s the Ronald Reagan excuse – after all, he’s older than Reagan was when he ran for the presidency.

McCain said there’s “divided scientific opinion” on the matter, with “many on the other side that are credible scientists that are saying that’s not the cause of it.”

Ahh. Teach the ControversyTM, shall we?

Fortunately, ABC’s Jake Tapper got the actual facts into the story

The established medical community is not as divided as McCain made it sound, however. Overwhelmingly the “credible scientists,” at least as the government and the medical establishment so ordain them, side against McCain’s view.

Moreover, those scientists and organizations fear that powerful people lending credence to the thimerosal theory could dissuade parents from getting their children immunized — which in their view would lead to a very real health crisis.

H/T Aetiology.

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2 Responses

  1. I wonder if you would be willing to watch a movie like Ben Stein’s Expelled? Evolutionist/Creationist as it is.
    http://www.expelledthemovie.com/

    However about the vaccine issue I would say this:
    I have found in times past that any evidence or even ideas questioning the validity of the claims of those so called “credible scientists, and medical community” and the governments authority to regulate them, are often torched, crush, buried or all three. The article you posted there left out a lot of information, scientific information.

    However, why would a statement like that be met with such force? He was simply trying to show that woman and others like her that they wouldn’t be nameless faces, that individuals matter in his campaign. No one believes he’s going to take on the medical establishment in his own private war over autism. I believe his comment was meant to show concern for an issue that has many people concerned. Plain and simple.

    There is a power behind the crushing force that comes against these non-conformist ideas and I think most people know instinctively what the power is. I would submit that it is greed.

    There is a lot of money in the pockets of those running the drugs and the medicine and the food (read FDA) in this country, simply because we all need it. They control it, they control us.
    Sorry to crash your McCain-bashing party. I’m a Christian and a Conservative and I won’t vote for him either.

    I hope you will not see my comment as offensive and get all riled up and hateful over it. That was not my intention. Have a nice day.

  2. [T]here’s strong evidence that indicates that it’s got to do with a preservative in vaccines

    That’s an outright falsehood. McCain might running his mouth without a clue what he’s talking about. He might be intentionally spouting disinformation. Either way, it’s unacceptable.

    There isn’t divided scientific opinion – there are a few cranks out to make money, there are a lot of anti-science types…but there are no “credible scientists”

    I have found in times past that any evidence or even ideas questioning the validity of the claims of those so called “credible scientists, and medical community” and the governments authority to regulate them, are often torched, crush, buried or all three.

    Interesting. I take it that you have evidence to support this?

    I wonder if you would be willing to watch a movie like Ben Stein’s Expelled? Evolutionist/Creationist as it is.

    Based on what I’ve heard of it, no, I don’t think I would be interested in seeing it. Just about everything I’ve seen of it has either been outright dishonesty, or underhand dishonesty.

    I hope you will not see my comment as offensive and get all riled up and hateful over it.

    Ah yes. The “have you stopped beating your wife” approach. If you don’t want your comments to be taken as offensive, don’t make offensive comments. But come on, you can’t defend this sort of dishonesty (anti-vaxers, creationists), while insulting the integrity of the entire scientific community and expect it to be seen as anything other than offensive. And, of course, you add a nice little “riled up an hateful”…nice backhanded insult there. So are you saying that I am usually hateful? Or are you just assuming that anyone who disagrees with you is hateful?

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