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	<title>Comments on: Guayanilla Windfarm</title>
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		<title>By: texyAcceddy</title>
		<link>http://ianramjohn.wordpress.com/2007/07/10/guayanilla-windfarm/#comment-2606</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 02:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Engaging internet site. i will come back</description>
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		<title>By: Puerto Rican Nightjar</title>
		<link>http://ianramjohn.wordpress.com/2007/07/10/guayanilla-windfarm/#comment-2601</link>
		<dc:creator>Puerto Rican Nightjar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 11:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] most disturbing recent development threat has come from a proposed wind farm development of twenty-five 450 foot high turbines spread out over 725 acres in Guayanilla municipality [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] most disturbing recent development threat has come from a proposed wind farm development of twenty-five 450 foot high turbines spread out over 725 acres in Guayanilla municipality [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Laden</title>
		<link>http://ianramjohn.wordpress.com/2007/07/10/guayanilla-windfarm/#comment-329</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Laden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 14:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the Minnesota State Fair the other day we came across a single blade of one of these wind generators.  I could not believe how HUGE it was!  We spent a lot of time talking with the builder who was there representing the company that is building many of them here in MN and the Dakotas.  Those things have huge foundations, not to mention the power lines, etc.

On the other hand, they can be built in an existing agricultural field and the field can still be farmed.

Here is the problem:  They are cited very carefully to give maximum returns for the investment.  Sometimes that means taking out a wetland, or impacting on some rare bird, or whatever.  If they could be cited less optimally and still be &quot;viable&quot; this could be avoided.

Similarly, the design may not be ideal for birds passing by as you point out.  But there probably are designs that would be more bird-friendly.  But since they would not be designed to maximize return on investment, they would not be built.  But if they could be, this would be avoided.

The solution?  To recognize that the loss of profit is not acceptable in a pure free market model, but is acceptable in a socially and environmentally responsible manner.  If you just regulate against adverse effects you squelch development.  But if you PAY for it, you get both. Federally and by state there should be a fund to pay for part of the development costs as long as siting and turbine style conforms to certain guidelines. 

This way there would be more wind turbines built on existing agricultural land of designs that have less impact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the Minnesota State Fair the other day we came across a single blade of one of these wind generators.  I could not believe how HUGE it was!  We spent a lot of time talking with the builder who was there representing the company that is building many of them here in MN and the Dakotas.  Those things have huge foundations, not to mention the power lines, etc.</p>
<p>On the other hand, they can be built in an existing agricultural field and the field can still be farmed.</p>
<p>Here is the problem:  They are cited very carefully to give maximum returns for the investment.  Sometimes that means taking out a wetland, or impacting on some rare bird, or whatever.  If they could be cited less optimally and still be &#8220;viable&#8221; this could be avoided.</p>
<p>Similarly, the design may not be ideal for birds passing by as you point out.  But there probably are designs that would be more bird-friendly.  But since they would not be designed to maximize return on investment, they would not be built.  But if they could be, this would be avoided.</p>
<p>The solution?  To recognize that the loss of profit is not acceptable in a pure free market model, but is acceptable in a socially and environmentally responsible manner.  If you just regulate against adverse effects you squelch development.  But if you PAY for it, you get both. Federally and by state there should be a fund to pay for part of the development costs as long as siting and turbine style conforms to certain guidelines. </p>
<p>This way there would be more wind turbines built on existing agricultural land of designs that have less impact.</p>
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		<title>By: Guayanilla Windfarm EIS: Puerto Rican nightjar I &#171; Further thoughts</title>
		<link>http://ianramjohn.wordpress.com/2007/07/10/guayanilla-windfarm/#comment-96</link>
		<dc:creator>Guayanilla Windfarm EIS: Puerto Rican nightjar I &#171; Further thoughts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 19:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Guayanilla Windfarm - general thoughts on the topic. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Guayanilla Windfarm EIS: species-Area relationships &#171; Further thoughts</title>
		<link>http://ianramjohn.wordpress.com/2007/07/10/guayanilla-windfarm/#comment-90</link>
		<dc:creator>Guayanilla Windfarm EIS: species-Area relationships &#171; Further thoughts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 16:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Punta Verraco, Cerro Toro and Punta Ventanas in southwestern Puerto Rico has generated controversy (see my first post on the issue) on a number of issues. One of the things that bothers me most is the sloppy [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Punta Verraco, Cerro Toro and Punta Ventanas in southwestern Puerto Rico has generated controversy (see my first post on the issue) on a number of issues. One of the things that bothers me most is the sloppy [...]</p>
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		<title>By: rebecca umpierre</title>
		<link>http://ianramjohn.wordpress.com/2007/07/10/guayanilla-windfarm/#comment-79</link>
		<dc:creator>rebecca umpierre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 21:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you visited the site ?  It´s one of great beauty and we must not compromise here.  I loved your comment about the Environmental Impact Statement.

Thank you for taking time to write about this subject.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you visited the site ?  It´s one of great beauty and we must not compromise here.  I loved your comment about the Environmental Impact Statement.</p>
<p>Thank you for taking time to write about this subject.</p>
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